Dear Sir
I think one of the key demands apart from OROP should be to have constituency for the
ESM's much like Graduate constituency to look after the interests of the ESM's which
successive governments have failed to do so. Till such time Govt may like
to nominate two ESM's one Retd Gen rank( Maj Gen-Gen eqv) & one JCO eqv to
the Rajya Sabha. Difficult? No harm in trying
Air Cmde Raghubir Singh (Retd)
Sunday, October 25, 2009
Mails to editors bt Lt Col Bm Thapa for return of medals
From: Brij Mohan Thapa
To: aaaaa Amar Ujala
Sent: Sat, 24 October, 2009 4:46:23 PM
Subject: Depositing of Medals on 25 Oct 2009 By Ex-Servicemen To President of India
Dear Editor,
Kindly arrange to publish the following important news and press release of welfare of 23 lakhs retired Ex-Servicemen of India who have already deposited 20000 medals to the President of India and now on 25 Oct 09 at 3 pm again depositing medals to the President of India please.
Lt Col B M Thapa, Veteran, Member IESM, gen Secy DESL
Depositing of Medals on 25 Oct 2009 By Ex-Servicemen To President of India
Dear Veterans,
1. The Govt continues to ignore the grant of One Rank One Pension demand of Ex Servicemen (ESM). The Prime Minister in his speech at Red Fort on 15 Aug 09 had stated that pensions of JCOs and other ranks have been enhanced. Even, these orders have not yet been issued by the Govt. Why there should be so much delay? Is it that bureaucracy with intent to harass the Ex Servicemen is causing hurdles in issuing the necessary orders? The Ex Servicemen are very angry and hurt on this attitude of the Govt.
2. Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) an Umbrella Organisation of all ESM of India has been carrying out the crusade against the Injustice to the Defence Forces. It has been able to focus the issues concerning the Defence Personnel and had put up four demands to the Govt as under:-
· One Rank One Pension (OROP).
· Assured Second Career for all Defence Personnel till the age of 60 years through the Act of Parliament.
· Ex Servicemen Commission with all members from Ex-Servicemen and widows.
· All future commissions / committees concerning ESM must have member from ESM.
3. Currently various options as under are being exercised to get our demands met by the Govt.
· Approaching PM & RM again, bringing out the inadequacies of Cab Secy Committee recommendations regarding OROP.
· Seeking audience with the President.
· Approaching all MPs to take up the cause of Defence Personnel to get our demand of OROP sanctioned by the Govt. Requesting them to raise the issue in the Parliament.
· Approaching media, both Print and Electronic to give due coverge to the cause of Defence Force to get the support of people of India.
· Asking our brethren veterans who have flare for writing to write articles and get these published through various media means.
· Organising Rallies in support of our cause in various parts of the country.
· Organising various events during Kargil and Vijay Diwas focusing the contributions of Defence Forces towards the Nation.
· When the Govt continued to ignore our demands inspite of our continued efforts through meetings with various Govt functionaries, inorder to express our anguish and hurt feelings, depositing our hard earned Medals with the President. 20000 medals on four different occasions have already been deposited. This is one method which has caused some concern in the Govt circles. The same was evident from the statement of RRM in the Parliament that “Since the demand of OROP has been met for JCOs and ORs (infact not met), ESM are requested to take back their medals”. Keeping this in mind IESM is depositing the medals once again with the President on 25Oct 09 ie tomorrow at 3 PM. The medals are being collected at Jantar Mantar between 10 AM to 2 PM.
· Exercising legal option. All preliminary work has been carried out including engaging the most suitable advocate who had fought the case of Pre 96 Major Generals and won.
· Intensifying the protest Movement through yatras, dharanas and other peaceful and dignified means within the democratic norms and discipline.
4. Dear Friends, during our service we have learnt the principles of any dynamic struggle ie concentration of Force, (implying the “Unity and collective Wisdom” of all ESM) & Maintenance of Movement (graduated upgradation of intensity of the Movement in quality, quantity and volume). It is here we seek your cooperation. We request you to join the Movement by becoming its member and those ESM who have not yet deposited medals, volunteering to deposit medals tomorrow at Jantar Mantar between 10 AM to 2 PM. Medals can also be deposited at the IESM HQ Office at 543 Sector 23 Gurgaon (Hr.)
5. This is the time to show Unity and Visibility to the Govt. So kindly deposit your medals to show solidarity with the cause of Defence Forces. OROP is our most genuine and legitimate demand and we MUST get it. All past pensioners with same years of service and same rank must get the same pension irrespective of the date of retirement.
6. OROP update and Press Release are attached for your information.
“Let us join together to make the Movement successful by getting
our demands met from the Govt”
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
To: aaaaa Amar Ujala
Sent: Sat, 24 October, 2009 4:46:23 PM
Subject: Depositing of Medals on 25 Oct 2009 By Ex-Servicemen To President of India
Dear Editor,
Kindly arrange to publish the following important news and press release of welfare of 23 lakhs retired Ex-Servicemen of India who have already deposited 20000 medals to the President of India and now on 25 Oct 09 at 3 pm again depositing medals to the President of India please.
Lt Col B M Thapa, Veteran, Member IESM, gen Secy DESL
Depositing of Medals on 25 Oct 2009 By Ex-Servicemen To President of India
Dear Veterans,
1. The Govt continues to ignore the grant of One Rank One Pension demand of Ex Servicemen (ESM). The Prime Minister in his speech at Red Fort on 15 Aug 09 had stated that pensions of JCOs and other ranks have been enhanced. Even, these orders have not yet been issued by the Govt. Why there should be so much delay? Is it that bureaucracy with intent to harass the Ex Servicemen is causing hurdles in issuing the necessary orders? The Ex Servicemen are very angry and hurt on this attitude of the Govt.
2. Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) an Umbrella Organisation of all ESM of India has been carrying out the crusade against the Injustice to the Defence Forces. It has been able to focus the issues concerning the Defence Personnel and had put up four demands to the Govt as under:-
· One Rank One Pension (OROP).
· Assured Second Career for all Defence Personnel till the age of 60 years through the Act of Parliament.
· Ex Servicemen Commission with all members from Ex-Servicemen and widows.
· All future commissions / committees concerning ESM must have member from ESM.
3. Currently various options as under are being exercised to get our demands met by the Govt.
· Approaching PM & RM again, bringing out the inadequacies of Cab Secy Committee recommendations regarding OROP.
· Seeking audience with the President.
· Approaching all MPs to take up the cause of Defence Personnel to get our demand of OROP sanctioned by the Govt. Requesting them to raise the issue in the Parliament.
· Approaching media, both Print and Electronic to give due coverge to the cause of Defence Force to get the support of people of India.
· Asking our brethren veterans who have flare for writing to write articles and get these published through various media means.
· Organising Rallies in support of our cause in various parts of the country.
· Organising various events during Kargil and Vijay Diwas focusing the contributions of Defence Forces towards the Nation.
· When the Govt continued to ignore our demands inspite of our continued efforts through meetings with various Govt functionaries, inorder to express our anguish and hurt feelings, depositing our hard earned Medals with the President. 20000 medals on four different occasions have already been deposited. This is one method which has caused some concern in the Govt circles. The same was evident from the statement of RRM in the Parliament that “Since the demand of OROP has been met for JCOs and ORs (infact not met), ESM are requested to take back their medals”. Keeping this in mind IESM is depositing the medals once again with the President on 25Oct 09 ie tomorrow at 3 PM. The medals are being collected at Jantar Mantar between 10 AM to 2 PM.
· Exercising legal option. All preliminary work has been carried out including engaging the most suitable advocate who had fought the case of Pre 96 Major Generals and won.
· Intensifying the protest Movement through yatras, dharanas and other peaceful and dignified means within the democratic norms and discipline.
4. Dear Friends, during our service we have learnt the principles of any dynamic struggle ie concentration of Force, (implying the “Unity and collective Wisdom” of all ESM) & Maintenance of Movement (graduated upgradation of intensity of the Movement in quality, quantity and volume). It is here we seek your cooperation. We request you to join the Movement by becoming its member and those ESM who have not yet deposited medals, volunteering to deposit medals tomorrow at Jantar Mantar between 10 AM to 2 PM. Medals can also be deposited at the IESM HQ Office at 543 Sector 23 Gurgaon (Hr.)
5. This is the time to show Unity and Visibility to the Govt. So kindly deposit your medals to show solidarity with the cause of Defence Forces. OROP is our most genuine and legitimate demand and we MUST get it. All past pensioners with same years of service and same rank must get the same pension irrespective of the date of retirement.
6. OROP update and Press Release are attached for your information.
“Let us join together to make the Movement successful by getting
our demands met from the Govt”
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Vice Chairman Indian ESM Movement
Mobile: 9312404269, 0124-4110570
Tuesday, October 20, 2009
Views by Lt Col BM Thapa
Dear Editor,
Kindly arrange to publish the following information in your news paper being most important for welfare of 23 lacs Ex-Servicemen of the country please.
Regards.
Lt Col B M Thapa, Veteran , Member Indian Ex- Services Movement, Gen Secy, Dehradun Ex-Services League
AN APPEAL FROM INDIAN EX-SERVICES MOVEMENT
Brig C S Kamboj, V S M, Veteran,(E Mail ID-kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in)
In last one year or so, if the ESM have been able to draw the attention of the public, the media and the Government of India, it is purely because of the efforts of Ex Servicemen, all supporting the IESM forcefully and some of its supporters working silently behind the scenes.
Former Chiefs of Army and Navy, who are members of IESM and are whole heartedly supporting us behind the scenes.
Some of the ESM Organisations of JCOs, NCOs and ORs have also been giving very strong support to IESM in its mission; while these ESM organisations have been independently pressurising the Government of India, they have also been supporting the IESM whole heartedly in its plans on ground.
The Government has done very little for ESM so far, but they are aware of the rapidly rising popularity of IESM among the ESM.
There are also very strong rumours floating around that while internally the Government has in principle agreed to OROP, it will announce it only a year or so before the next general elections!!!
We cannot believe such rumours – and have to continue with our efforts to get –
“JUSTICE FOR DEFENCE SERVICES”.
So let us all stand shoulder to shoulder and support the activities of IESM whole heartedly.
An email received from Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Retd, S M,Vice Chairman IESM, is reproduced below. The attachment received with the email in English language is reproduced below his email. Please translate the English version in your regional languages and have these circulated widely in your respective areas.
Please do put in your best efforts to make the depositing of medals on 25 Oct 09 a grand success event as earlier.
A handful of leaders of IESM cannot achieve the aim unless we all support sincerely and with all our might.
Success of IESM is in the interest of ALL ESM of INDIA, spread all over the world.
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
In Put By Lt Col B M Thapa, Veteran & Member of IESM
PRESS RELEASE/INVITATION
Unhappy Over Non Grant of One Rank One Pension (OROP), Ex - Servicemen Deposit Medals with the President Fifth time on 25 Oct 2009 at Jantar Mantar
Dear Members of the Media
1. The Govt continues to ignore the grant of One Rank One Pension demand of Ex Servicemen (ESM). The Prime Minister in his speech at Red Fort on 15 Aug 09 had stated that pensions of JCOs and other ranks have been enhanced. Even, these orders have not yet been issued by the Govt. Why there should be so much delay? Is it that bureaucracy with intent to harass the Ex Servicemen is causing hurdles in issuing the necessary orders? The Ex Servicemen are very angry and hurt on this attitude of the Govt. The Ex Servicemen across the country have asked the Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) leadership who have been protesting for the last one and half year against the Injustice to Defence Forces to intensify the Movement to get OROP sanctioned at the earliest. IESM has decided to deposit the medals once again with the President on 25 Oct 09. It may please be noted that Ex Servicemen have already deposited 20000 medals with the President.
2. ESM PAN India have started depositing the medals with the IESM HQ at Gurgaon (Hr). The medals will also be collected on 25 Oct 09 at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi from 10 AM to 2 PM. Thereafter, a delegation of IESM will proceed to Rashtrapati Bhawan to deposit the medals with the President.
3. IESM appeals to all ESM across the country to volunteer deposit the medals to strengthen the Movement for getting Justice to the Defence Personnel, the most important demand being the grant of OROP. It is pertinent to mention that an old pensioner Sepoy with 17 years of service gets a pension of Rs 3500/-per month only where as a Sepoy retiring after 2006 with same years of service gets a Pension of Rs 7045/- per month. This is totally unjust, illegal and happens only in our Country.
4. You are requested to kindly publish this in your news paper/carry it in your news channel/magazine /periodicals and also cover the event on 25 Oct 2009 between 10 AM to 3 PM at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi.
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Kindly arrange to publish the following information in your news paper being most important for welfare of 23 lacs Ex-Servicemen of the country please.
Regards.
Lt Col B M Thapa, Veteran , Member Indian Ex- Services Movement, Gen Secy, Dehradun Ex-Services League
AN APPEAL FROM INDIAN EX-SERVICES MOVEMENT
Brig C S Kamboj, V S M, Veteran,(E Mail ID-kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in)
In last one year or so, if the ESM have been able to draw the attention of the public, the media and the Government of India, it is purely because of the efforts of Ex Servicemen, all supporting the IESM forcefully and some of its supporters working silently behind the scenes.
Former Chiefs of Army and Navy, who are members of IESM and are whole heartedly supporting us behind the scenes.
Some of the ESM Organisations of JCOs, NCOs and ORs have also been giving very strong support to IESM in its mission; while these ESM organisations have been independently pressurising the Government of India, they have also been supporting the IESM whole heartedly in its plans on ground.
The Government has done very little for ESM so far, but they are aware of the rapidly rising popularity of IESM among the ESM.
There are also very strong rumours floating around that while internally the Government has in principle agreed to OROP, it will announce it only a year or so before the next general elections!!!
We cannot believe such rumours – and have to continue with our efforts to get –
“JUSTICE FOR DEFENCE SERVICES”.
So let us all stand shoulder to shoulder and support the activities of IESM whole heartedly.
An email received from Maj Gen Satbir Singh, Retd, S M,Vice Chairman IESM, is reproduced below. The attachment received with the email in English language is reproduced below his email. Please translate the English version in your regional languages and have these circulated widely in your respective areas.
Please do put in your best efforts to make the depositing of medals on 25 Oct 09 a grand success event as earlier.
A handful of leaders of IESM cannot achieve the aim unless we all support sincerely and with all our might.
Success of IESM is in the interest of ALL ESM of INDIA, spread all over the world.
In Service of Indian Military Veterans
In Put By Lt Col B M Thapa, Veteran & Member of IESM
PRESS RELEASE/INVITATION
Unhappy Over Non Grant of One Rank One Pension (OROP), Ex - Servicemen Deposit Medals with the President Fifth time on 25 Oct 2009 at Jantar Mantar
Dear Members of the Media
1. The Govt continues to ignore the grant of One Rank One Pension demand of Ex Servicemen (ESM). The Prime Minister in his speech at Red Fort on 15 Aug 09 had stated that pensions of JCOs and other ranks have been enhanced. Even, these orders have not yet been issued by the Govt. Why there should be so much delay? Is it that bureaucracy with intent to harass the Ex Servicemen is causing hurdles in issuing the necessary orders? The Ex Servicemen are very angry and hurt on this attitude of the Govt. The Ex Servicemen across the country have asked the Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) leadership who have been protesting for the last one and half year against the Injustice to Defence Forces to intensify the Movement to get OROP sanctioned at the earliest. IESM has decided to deposit the medals once again with the President on 25 Oct 09. It may please be noted that Ex Servicemen have already deposited 20000 medals with the President.
2. ESM PAN India have started depositing the medals with the IESM HQ at Gurgaon (Hr). The medals will also be collected on 25 Oct 09 at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi from 10 AM to 2 PM. Thereafter, a delegation of IESM will proceed to Rashtrapati Bhawan to deposit the medals with the President.
3. IESM appeals to all ESM across the country to volunteer deposit the medals to strengthen the Movement for getting Justice to the Defence Personnel, the most important demand being the grant of OROP. It is pertinent to mention that an old pensioner Sepoy with 17 years of service gets a pension of Rs 3500/-per month only where as a Sepoy retiring after 2006 with same years of service gets a Pension of Rs 7045/- per month. This is totally unjust, illegal and happens only in our Country.
4. You are requested to kindly publish this in your news paper/carry it in your news channel/magazine /periodicals and also cover the event on 25 Oct 2009 between 10 AM to 3 PM at Jantar Mantar, New Delhi.
With Kind Regards,
Jai Hind
Yours Sincerely,
Maj Gen (Retd) Satbir Singh, SM
Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Views from UK...Veteran rajinder singh rajput
From: RSingh305@aol.com [mailto:RSingh305@aol.com]
Sent: 13 October 2009 04:00
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: ESM SITREP OF 12 OCT 09 - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 709/2009 - 12 OCT 0...
In a message dated 12/10/2009 18:56:42 GMT Standard Time, kamboj@itintellectuals.com writes:
· Issue of membership cards is to be undertaken expeditiously. A simple card will be designed showing the minimum essential details and printed on priority. This will then be despatched to members by postal mail.
-------------------------------
Dear Sir,
What a great idea to issue membership cards.
Please get the estimate for COST of printing these and appeal for volunteer donors. Even if you have the funds, extra bit can always be welcome.
I think you will have tremendous response and all the expense will be taken care of at once.
Needless to say that you are doing great service to the cause. We have great admiration for your hard work.
Rajinder Singh Rajput
Veteran
UK
Sent: 13 October 2009 04:00
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: ESM SITREP OF 12 OCT 09 - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 709/2009 - 12 OCT 0...
In a message dated 12/10/2009 18:56:42 GMT Standard Time, kamboj@itintellectuals.com writes:
· Issue of membership cards is to be undertaken expeditiously. A simple card will be designed showing the minimum essential details and printed on priority. This will then be despatched to members by postal mail.
-------------------------------
Dear Sir,
What a great idea to issue membership cards.
Please get the estimate for COST of printing these and appeal for volunteer donors. Even if you have the funds, extra bit can always be welcome.
I think you will have tremendous response and all the expense will be taken care of at once.
Needless to say that you are doing great service to the cause. We have great admiration for your hard work.
Rajinder Singh Rajput
Veteran
UK
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
OROP views by Cdr RW Pathak ...reply to Sunil Makse
Dear Sunil Maske
There is absolutely no confusion.The Fin Min and Def Min merely announced that the Government has given OROP to JCO and below(Fin Min) and also to officers(Def Min).Mere words.There are no orders so far and no indication of when and how.
As announced they have merely created two groups instead of three by bringing pre 1997 retirees at par with pre 2006 retirees.
Please dont believe any thing till we get the actual orders.
Brgds
R W Pathak
******************************
Sunil Maske
Dear sir,
we are bit confused about OROP, is it possible for you to deliver some ideas on it, no rush when you get chance please
With regards
Sunil Makse Ex PO
Security Specialist
UK
Together we can...
There is absolutely no confusion.The Fin Min and Def Min merely announced that the Government has given OROP to JCO and below(Fin Min) and also to officers(Def Min).Mere words.There are no orders so far and no indication of when and how.
As announced they have merely created two groups instead of three by bringing pre 1997 retirees at par with pre 2006 retirees.
Please dont believe any thing till we get the actual orders.
Brgds
R W Pathak
******************************
Sunil Maske
Dear sir,
we are bit confused about OROP, is it possible for you to deliver some ideas on it, no rush when you get chance please
With regards
Sunil Makse Ex PO
Security Specialist
UK
Together we can...
Views of Veteran Bhupal singh from Australia
Dear Gen Raj,
Thanx for the update reg Steering Committee Meeting. May I offer few suggestions--
a. The paper for OROP petition should be circulated through the
RMS Blog and suggestions invited from the ESM on the net.
Suitable suggestions should then be incorporated in the
petition before submitting to authorities concerned.
b. The Membership cards shoild be of electronic variety like those
of CSD or ECHS or Cr Cards etc and of longer life material.
c. I have submitted few times in the past also that in our country
the authorities do not give any significant thought to written
representations. Of course exceptions are there. I have sugges-
red in the past also that we must hold a rally of the magnitude
of over at least 200,000 ESM ( including fammilies of ESM)
to create an impact on the general public, media, politicians at
large and the Govt Authorities. Our age old concept of sticking
to soldiely ethics do no not cause any tangible impact.Our past
Rallies did not cause significant impact ( I do not mean to say
that those rallies were ineffective or were a waste ). In our
country unless the roads are choked and the traffic come to
stand still, no one takes note of the rallies. The Rally need not
be violent. But if it is massive in nature with lot of slogans
( which should be positive in nature ), banners & billboards
etc, it will certainly leave lasting impression on all those who
matter. This suggestion should be discussed by the Steering
Committee not only amongst themselves but with the Regional
/State Cells and then implemented.
2. With regards & best wishes to all,
Bhupal Singh, Veteran
Australia
Thanx for the update reg Steering Committee Meeting. May I offer few suggestions--
a. The paper for OROP petition should be circulated through the
RMS Blog and suggestions invited from the ESM on the net.
Suitable suggestions should then be incorporated in the
petition before submitting to authorities concerned.
b. The Membership cards shoild be of electronic variety like those
of CSD or ECHS or Cr Cards etc and of longer life material.
c. I have submitted few times in the past also that in our country
the authorities do not give any significant thought to written
representations. Of course exceptions are there. I have sugges-
red in the past also that we must hold a rally of the magnitude
of over at least 200,000 ESM ( including fammilies of ESM)
to create an impact on the general public, media, politicians at
large and the Govt Authorities. Our age old concept of sticking
to soldiely ethics do no not cause any tangible impact.Our past
Rallies did not cause significant impact ( I do not mean to say
that those rallies were ineffective or were a waste ). In our
country unless the roads are choked and the traffic come to
stand still, no one takes note of the rallies. The Rally need not
be violent. But if it is massive in nature with lot of slogans
( which should be positive in nature ), banners & billboards
etc, it will certainly leave lasting impression on all those who
matter. This suggestion should be discussed by the Steering
Committee not only amongst themselves but with the Regional
/State Cells and then implemented.
2. With regards & best wishes to all,
Bhupal Singh, Veteran
Australia
Wednesday, October 7, 2009
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