From: ramantn sarma colram40@yahoo.com
Sent: 09 February 2010 14:34
To: Rajagopalan S
Cc: REPORT MY SIGNAL (CS Kamboj); TRUNCATED
Subject: IESM Tamilnadu- New Members
Dear Commander Rajagopalan,
Received the five Membership forms with a cash of Rs 5,00/-. The amount has been deposited in the IESM acct, with HDFC Bank today & the on line Registration of them have been completed. On behalf of the Chairman IESM, I welcome the following New Members to our fold :-
Hav N Krishnamoorthy, Hav Arul, Cpl B Subramanian, Hav R Thiyagarajan & L/Nk V Arumugam.
I was also informed by Col N Viswanathan that you will be sending another 40 Forms shortly. I am thankful to you for your fine efforts in continuing with the enrolment. Well Done & Keep it up!!
Regards,
Veteran Raman
Friday, February 12, 2010
Wednesday, December 16, 2009
PENSION OF PRE 2006 MAJORS AND EQUIVALENTS by Maj R Gujral
From: Ravinder Gujral [mailto:ravigujral@hotmail.com]
Sent: 12 December 2009 09:35
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: PENSION OF PRE 2006 MAJORS AND EQUIVALENTS - EMAIL 822/2009 - 12 DEC 09 (A to G)
Dear Sir,
It is indeed very kind of you for giving thought to the pension of a Major.
As per the new Army Instruction of 2004, any offr who completes 13 years of srvice and has passed the part D exam, he is to be promoted to the rank of a Lt Col. Thus promotion to the rank of a Lt Col now is time scale. As a matter of fact, all Major's who have retired and are drawing pension fulfill both the critereas of length of service and having passed the promotion examination. Thus they should be equated with a Lt Col. As per the same Army Instruction, an offr who completes 6 years service is to be promoted to the rank of a Major. It would be seen that the retired Majors holding all the qualifications of a Lt Col and also having more then 20 years of service to their credit are being equated with Majors of 6 years service We are planning to challenge this in the Court of Law. Those willing to join in the band wagon are welcome to contact the under-signed.
With best regards
Major RS Gujral
# 2528, Sector 35-C,
Chandigarh 160 022
Mob No. 09417474759, 09417689052
Tele No. 0172-5019931, 5002932
Sent: 12 December 2009 09:35
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: PENSION OF PRE 2006 MAJORS AND EQUIVALENTS - EMAIL 822/2009 - 12 DEC 09 (A to G)
Dear Sir,
It is indeed very kind of you for giving thought to the pension of a Major.
As per the new Army Instruction of 2004, any offr who completes 13 years of srvice and has passed the part D exam, he is to be promoted to the rank of a Lt Col. Thus promotion to the rank of a Lt Col now is time scale. As a matter of fact, all Major's who have retired and are drawing pension fulfill both the critereas of length of service and having passed the promotion examination. Thus they should be equated with a Lt Col. As per the same Army Instruction, an offr who completes 6 years service is to be promoted to the rank of a Major. It would be seen that the retired Majors holding all the qualifications of a Lt Col and also having more then 20 years of service to their credit are being equated with Majors of 6 years service We are planning to challenge this in the Court of Law. Those willing to join in the band wagon are welcome to contact the under-signed.
With best regards
Major RS Gujral
# 2528, Sector 35-C,
Chandigarh 160 022
Mob No. 09417474759, 09417689052
Tele No. 0172-5019931, 5002932
Sunday, November 29, 2009
Mail from Brig shyam
29 Nov 09.
Dear Brigadier Shyam Prasad,
Reference your email below.
Thank you for your kind offer.
I am forwarding your email to the Governing Body of IESM to note down your name and request you to help IESM in a particular field of your choice, where IESM needs help.
Also, help us in enrolling members for IESM, in particular JCOs, NCOs, ORs widows. There is no fee for widows.
The membership form and guidelines for becoming member of IESM are given in the attachment to this email.
I wil also request you to kindly get in touch with the Secy Gen of IESM - Gp Capt VK Gandhi - 09810541222, 0120-2519440 , 4313951.
Very fond regards.
Chander.
Copy to - Governing Body IESM - Gp Capt Vinod Gandhi is requested to kindly get in touch with Brig Shyam Prasad, a senior veteran from Signals. - shyam_1938@yahoo.com .
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From: shyam Prasad [mailto:shyam_1938@yahoo.com]
Sent: 29 November 2009 07:59
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: ARE YOU DOING ENOUGH FOR THE SUCCESS OF ALL INDIA ESM MOVEMENT - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 802/2009 - 28 NOV 09 (H to Z)
Chander Kamboj
Thanks for the email
I agree with all the points mentioned in the email
Please let me know how I can help
S Prasad
Dear Brigadier Shyam Prasad,
Reference your email below.
Thank you for your kind offer.
I am forwarding your email to the Governing Body of IESM to note down your name and request you to help IESM in a particular field of your choice, where IESM needs help.
Also, help us in enrolling members for IESM, in particular JCOs, NCOs, ORs widows. There is no fee for widows.
The membership form and guidelines for becoming member of IESM are given in the attachment to this email.
I wil also request you to kindly get in touch with the Secy Gen of IESM - Gp Capt VK Gandhi - 09810541222, 0120-2519440 , 4313951.
Very fond regards.
Chander.
Copy to - Governing Body IESM - Gp Capt Vinod Gandhi is requested to kindly get in touch with Brig Shyam Prasad, a senior veteran from Signals. - shyam_1938@yahoo.com .
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From: shyam Prasad [mailto:shyam_1938@yahoo.com]
Sent: 29 November 2009 07:59
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: ARE YOU DOING ENOUGH FOR THE SUCCESS OF ALL INDIA ESM MOVEMENT - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 802/2009 - 28 NOV 09 (H to Z)
Chander Kamboj
Thanks for the email
I agree with all the points mentioned in the email
Please let me know how I can help
S Prasad
REMOVAL OF 33 YEARS STIPULATION
Dear Friends,
Please visit the URL given below and read the letter issued by MoD, Dept of ESW, on 30 OCT 2009. This letter waives off the the stipulation of 33 years of service for all defence officer pensioners who retired after 1.1.2006. The Govt will now calculate their pension @ 50% of the last emoluments drawn or the average of last ten months', whichever is more beneficial to the individual.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22656080/Removal-of-33-Yrs-Stipulation
All of us who retired before 1.1.2006, should ask for the same yardstick to be applied to our cases as well. This will ensure equitable justice.
This will mean that all of us with 20 yrs of QS will become entitled to the pension currently being given for 33 years of weighted service. That pension is currently based on the minimum reckonable emoluments under the existing pay band for those who are still in service.
I now request all ESM organisations to take up this point and ask the govt to implement this yardstick. When accepted, we all with 20 years or more of QS will stand to gain substantially. I do not have the figures for all the ranks but for Lt Cols and equivalent, the pension will be Rs 25,700 pm, both for S and TS categories. Their current entitlement at 20 yrs of QS is Rs 21,028 and 19,470 respectively.
Pension cell of IESM may like to go into it and guide us all please.
We all should treat this demand as a step towards our ultimate goal of OROP.
Regards.................K K Punchhi
Please visit the URL given below and read the letter issued by MoD, Dept of ESW, on 30 OCT 2009. This letter waives off the the stipulation of 33 years of service for all defence officer pensioners who retired after 1.1.2006. The Govt will now calculate their pension @ 50% of the last emoluments drawn or the average of last ten months', whichever is more beneficial to the individual.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22656080/Removal-of-33-Yrs-Stipulation
All of us who retired before 1.1.2006, should ask for the same yardstick to be applied to our cases as well. This will ensure equitable justice.
This will mean that all of us with 20 yrs of QS will become entitled to the pension currently being given for 33 years of weighted service. That pension is currently based on the minimum reckonable emoluments under the existing pay band for those who are still in service.
I now request all ESM organisations to take up this point and ask the govt to implement this yardstick. When accepted, we all with 20 years or more of QS will stand to gain substantially. I do not have the figures for all the ranks but for Lt Cols and equivalent, the pension will be Rs 25,700 pm, both for S and TS categories. Their current entitlement at 20 yrs of QS is Rs 21,028 and 19,470 respectively.
Pension cell of IESM may like to go into it and guide us all please.
We all should treat this demand as a step towards our ultimate goal of OROP.
Regards.................K K Punchhi
Views of Col Raman for AGM on 13 Dec 2009
Dear Veterans,
The Sanjha Morcha seems to be up in Arms, not only against the IESM but also against one of its own founders. What may hurt our Movement is the litigation filed by our erst while Gen Secy, Col K Bharadwaj. The litigation by itself is not going to be the cause for worry, but the unnecessary expenditure in Lawyers fees & connected waste of time & energy. The hard earned money of the ESM of which these disgruntled Veterans were moaning about, is going to be frittered away to the Judiciary , the Lawyers, stationery & postage.
I request you all to consider the following actions to Safe Guard the interest of the IESM, as an Organisation, during the ensuing AGM:-
1. Table a Motion of Confidence, if the Vote of Confidence is not possible due to the strength of members present. Please send the printed version of the Motion to all the members of the IESM as on date, for their signatures & return on or before 12 Dec 2009. A specimen of the Motion is given below:-
" I, (No Rank Name & Membership No) who is a Life member of the Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) affirm my Faith and Confidence / do not have faith and confidence, in the present Office Bearers of the Association."
Signature of the Member, Date & Place"
To expedite the process, a suitably worded Motion can be sent by email for the Members to either take a print out or write or type out the same, sign & return by the due date.
Take care to include this item in the Agenda for the AGM.
2. Pass a Resolution to fix the date of AGM to Elect Office Bearers in the Year 2010. Include this item also in the Agenda for the AGM on 13 Dec 09.
3. Pass a Resolution for taking disciplinary action against the members who have been found to carry on anti IESM activities.
Best Wishes,
Veteran Raman
The Sanjha Morcha seems to be up in Arms, not only against the IESM but also against one of its own founders. What may hurt our Movement is the litigation filed by our erst while Gen Secy, Col K Bharadwaj. The litigation by itself is not going to be the cause for worry, but the unnecessary expenditure in Lawyers fees & connected waste of time & energy. The hard earned money of the ESM of which these disgruntled Veterans were moaning about, is going to be frittered away to the Judiciary , the Lawyers, stationery & postage.
I request you all to consider the following actions to Safe Guard the interest of the IESM, as an Organisation, during the ensuing AGM:-
1. Table a Motion of Confidence, if the Vote of Confidence is not possible due to the strength of members present. Please send the printed version of the Motion to all the members of the IESM as on date, for their signatures & return on or before 12 Dec 2009. A specimen of the Motion is given below:-
" I, (No Rank Name & Membership No) who is a Life member of the Indian Ex Servicemen Movement (IESM) affirm my Faith and Confidence / do not have faith and confidence, in the present Office Bearers of the Association."
Signature of the Member, Date & Place"
To expedite the process, a suitably worded Motion can be sent by email for the Members to either take a print out or write or type out the same, sign & return by the due date.
Take care to include this item in the Agenda for the AGM.
2. Pass a Resolution to fix the date of AGM to Elect Office Bearers in the Year 2010. Include this item also in the Agenda for the AGM on 13 Dec 09.
3. Pass a Resolution for taking disciplinary action against the members who have been found to carry on anti IESM activities.
Best Wishes,
Veteran Raman
Views of Cdr Pathak on Disgrunted ESM
Dear Sir
I fully agree with Veteran Raman.In fact this mail of mine may be taken as accepting the resolution.
We must also take suitable disciplinary action against the individual.
More important is i think to find out if these individuals are being used by vested interest to undermine the movement.
Brgds
R W Pathak
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
and
Warsha R Pathak(Mobile 919822329340
I fully agree with Veteran Raman.In fact this mail of mine may be taken as accepting the resolution.
We must also take suitable disciplinary action against the individual.
More important is i think to find out if these individuals are being used by vested interest to undermine the movement.
Brgds
R W Pathak
Cdr Ravindra Waman Pathak I.N.(Retd)
Member and Coordinator IESM Pension Cell
(Mobile 919822329340)
and
Warsha R Pathak(Mobile 919822329340
Mail from Cdr Rajinder Giani
From: Rajinder Giani [mailto:gianisatgoa@gmail.com]
Sent: 29 November 2009 18:05
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: ARE YOU DOING ENOUGH FOR THE SUCCESS OF ALL INDIA ESM MOVEMENT - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 802/2009 - 28 NOV 09 (A to G)
Dear Sir,
After reading your emails I became a member of IESM by depositing Rs 500 in the IESM account on 23 Nov and registering online (though I have yet to receive any acknpwledgement).
Sir, after taking premature retirement from the Navy in 1999, I worked as a Master in the merchant navy for some time. Nowadays, I spend half my time in Goa (Vasco da Gama, where I am settled) and half the time in Kharghar, Navi Mumbai (helping out my twin daughters who are working there). Sir, I have a lot of spare time and access to the net at both places. I would like to volunteer and help in any capacity whatsoever, especially with regrads to pension, ECHS and Canteen.
With warm regards,
Cdr Rajinder Giani (retd)
F-2, Block II, Salkar Residency, E-1102, Lily Bldg, Jalvayu Vihar Phase I
Adarsh Nagar ,Chicalim Sector 20, Kharghar
Goa 403 711 Navi Mumbai
Sent: 29 November 2009 18:05
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: ARE YOU DOING ENOUGH FOR THE SUCCESS OF ALL INDIA ESM MOVEMENT - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 802/2009 - 28 NOV 09 (A to G)
Dear Sir,
After reading your emails I became a member of IESM by depositing Rs 500 in the IESM account on 23 Nov and registering online (though I have yet to receive any acknpwledgement).
Sir, after taking premature retirement from the Navy in 1999, I worked as a Master in the merchant navy for some time. Nowadays, I spend half my time in Goa (Vasco da Gama, where I am settled) and half the time in Kharghar, Navi Mumbai (helping out my twin daughters who are working there). Sir, I have a lot of spare time and access to the net at both places. I would like to volunteer and help in any capacity whatsoever, especially with regrads to pension, ECHS and Canteen.
With warm regards,
Cdr Rajinder Giani (retd)
F-2, Block II, Salkar Residency, E-1102, Lily Bldg, Jalvayu Vihar Phase I
Adarsh Nagar ,Chicalim Sector 20, Kharghar
Goa 403 711 Navi Mumbai
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