Monday, November 23, 2009

Letter to editor Tribune by Lt Gen Harbhajan Singh

--- On Sat, 11/21/09, Harbhajan Singh wrote:

Dear Mr Dua, (Editor in Chief, the Tribune, India)

Our felicitations on your being nominated to the Rajya Sabha. You deserve the honor for the journalistic and other services that you have rendered to the Nation.

Now that you are where policies are made and bills passed, it would be appreciated if you kindly take up various issues relating to National Security, pays and perks of Indian Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen who day in and day out, since Independence have been deployed along our inhospitable borders, have fought so many wars and died in thousands defending the integrity of the Nation.

Please do read the write up below about American Armed Forces. Most of what is written amply applies to Indian Armed Forces as well.

Please draw your own conclusions and do the best you can for the Indian serving and retired Military personnel.

Best wishes.

Harbhajan Singh
Lt Gen (Retd) PVSM
Former Signal Officer-in-Chief
Chandigarh
9814801811

DELIVERY OF OPEN LETTER IESM to Ms Sushma Swaraj

From: maqbool niazi macniazi@yahoo.co.in

To: REPORT MY SIGNAL (C S Kamboj) kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in

Cc: Maj Gen Coomar Ashok coomar.ashok@gmail.com ; Kumar Col sukumar_col@rediffmail.com

Sent: Sun, 22 November, 2009 5:38:58 PM
Subject: DELIVERY OF OPEN LETTER IESM
Dear Brigadier.
The open letter to Hon`ble MPs from Lt. Gen.(Retd) Raj Kadyan PVSM,AVSM,VSM, Chairman IESM, Has been delivered to Ms. Sushma Swaraj MP Sihore and Deputy leader of Opposition Lok Sabha under the covering letter of Bhopal ExServices League, Ex Servicemen League Sihore and Ex DefenceService Officers Association Central India Under the signature of its President Maj Gen.(Retd) Ashok Coomar on Nov 21, 2009.
This is for your information please.

(Col MAK Niazi, Bhopal)

Friday, November 20, 2009

Role of services for India’s independence by Brig G Natarajan

Role of services for India’s independence

from Brig(retd) G natarajan, Signals


http://us.asiancorrespondent.com/atanu-dey-blog/2005/08/23/netajis-ghost-the-freedom-struggle

When B.P. Chakravarti was acting as Governor of West Bengal, Lord Attlee visited India and stayed as his guest for three days at the Raj Bhavan. Chakravarti asked Attlee about the real grounds for granting Independence to India. Specifically, his question was, when the Quit India movement lay in ruins years before 1947, what was the need for the British to leave in such a hurry. Attlee’s response is most illuminating and important for history. Here is the Governor’s account of what Attlee told him:
“In reply Attlee cited several reasons, the most important were the activities of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose which weakened the very foundation of the attachment of the Indian land and naval forces to the British Government. Towards the end, I asked Lord Attlee about the extent to which the British decision to quit India was influenced by Gandhi’s activities. On hearing this question Attlee’s lips widened in a smile of disdain and he uttered, slowly, putting emphasis on each single letter mi-ni-mal.”
This ‘unimpeachable’ truth will come as a shock to most Indians brought up to believe that the Congress movement driven by the ’spiritual force’ of Mahatma Gandhi forced the British to leave India.
But both the evidence and the logic of history are against this beautiful but childish fantasy; it was the fear of mutiny by the Indian armed forces-and not any ’spiritual force’- that forced the issue of freedom. The British saw that the sooner they left India the better for themselves, for, at the end of the war, India had some three million men under arms. Majumdar had reached the same conclusion years earlier, as far back as 1948 as he records. The most dramatic event after the end of World War II was the INA Trials at the Red Fort—not any movement by Gandhi or Nehru. This led directly to the mutiny of the naval ratings, which, more than anything, helped the British make up their minds to leave India in a hurry. They sensed that it was only a matter of time before the spirit spread to other sections of the armed forces and the rest of the Government. None of this would have happened without Subhas Bose and the INA.
The crucial point to note is that thanks to Subhas Bose’s activities and the INA, the Armed Forces began to see themselves as defenders of India rather than upholders of the British Empire. This, more than anything else, was what led to India’s freedom. This is also the reason why the British Empire disappeared from the face of the earth within an astonishingly short space of twenty years. Indian soldiers, who were the main prop of the Empire, were no longer willing to fight to hold the Empire together.

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news.com/2008/10/03/atlee-gandhis-role-in-uk-decision-to-leave-india-was-minimal/


2 “..Apart from revisionist historians, it was none other than Lord Clement Atlee himself, the British Prime Minister responsible for conceding independence to India, who gave a shattering blow to the myth sought to be perpetuated by court historians, that Gandhi and his movement had led the country to freedom. Chief Justice P.B. Chakrabarty of Calcutta High Court, who had also served as the acting Governor of West Bengal in India, disclosed the following in a letter addressed to the publisher of Dr. R.C. Majumdar’s book A History of Bengal. The Chief Justice wrote: ‘ My direct question to him (Atlee) was that since Gandhi’s “Quit India” movement had tapered off quite some time ago and in 1947 no such new compelling situation had arisen that would necessitate a hasty British departure, why did they have to leave? In his reply Atlee cited several reasons, the principal among them being the erosion of loyalty to the British Crown among the Indian army and navy personnel as a result of the military activities of Netaji [Bose]. Toward the end of our discussion I asked Atlee what was the extent of Gandhi’s influence upon the British decision to quit India. Hearing this question, Atlee’s lips became twisted in a sarcastic smile as he slowly chewed out the word, “m-i-n-i-m-a-l!” ” Subhas Chandra Bose, the Indian National Army, and the War of India’s Liberation – Ranjan Borra, Journal of Historical Review, no. 3, 4 (Winter 1982)
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THE END

Thursday, November 19, 2009

Monuments aglore by Veteran Chaitanya Prakash

From: Chaitanya [mailto:chait_any@yahoo.com]
Sent: 19 November 2009 13:19
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: LET'S SALUTE OUR BAND OF BROTHERS - "REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 778/2009 - 17 NOV 09 (A to G)


for those who lament about lack of memorials in India, have to only look towards state of UP- why we have hundreds of statues of someone called mayawati and her mentors - thousands of crore rupees have been spent on erecting these "memorials" in stone!

with our value system and priorities, as they stand, this is what we deserve and get.

as regards some of us cribbing about what pension and perks people in other walks of life/professions/service get and then want to compare them with soldiers my humble request is to understand that NO ONE GIVES OTHERS ANYTHING. IT IS THE ABILITY AND POWER TO TAKE WHAT YOU CAN. IF YOU HAVE THE POWERS OR THE CLOUT OR THE ABILITY TO HOLD THE COUNTRY TO RANSOM YOU CAN "TAKE" WHAT YOU WANT. NO ONE GIVES IT TO YOU UNLESS YOU TAKE IT YOURSELF.

until we the soldier understand this simple fact of life we will keep striving, begging, pleading and
living in fools paradise.

best regards
chaitanya prakash

Monday, November 16, 2009

Views of Cmde Brijesh on Draft Direct Tax Code

From: Brijesh brijesh.gupta@gmail.com
To: kamboj_cs@yahoo.co.in
Sent: Fri, 13 November, 2009 6:06:21 PM
Subject: Draft Direct Tax Code
Dear Brig Kamboj,

The Draft Direct Tax Code, which will replace the present IT Act 1961 upon enactment, has been placed in public domain for discussion. The code has a number of provisions which if enacted without amendment, may take away some of the benefits currently available to the veterans. The provisions ,as currently drafted, may curtail the list of gallantry awards entitled to IT benefits as also the benefit for persons with disability pension. I have not seen any discussion in the IESM on these important issues that may hit the beneficiaries from 01 Apr 11, when the new code kicks in.

My suggestion to IESM therefore is to consider setting of a dedicated but broad based group consisting of veterans with experience in law, pay and allowances, gallantry award winners and persons in receipt of disability pension to examine the draft code and propose amendments. Once the amendments have generally been agreed to, then these could be forwarded to members of the mailing list for forwarding to appropriate agency in the Government for consideration.

It is my understanding that the proposed amendments will be examined by a committee before the draft is finalised and tabled in parliament for approval.

regards,
Brijesh,
Cmde(retd)
(Cmde Brijesh’s suggestion has been forwarded to the IESM Steering Committee for consideration – Chander Kamboj)

Veteran's day by Veteran Pradeep Sharma

From: pradeep sharma
To: ""REPORT MY SIGNAL" (CS Kamboj)"
Sent: Thu, 12 November, 2009 9:52:42 PM
Subject: Fwd: The Chronicle

On the occasion of veteran's day in the US.
Thought this may be circulated.
The item is from a newsletter forwarded by the patriot post.
pls see link below

http://patriotpost.us/

Regards
Pradeep Sharma
(Wg Cdr Pradeep Sharma, Noida)
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http://patriotpost.us/edition/2009/11/11/chronicle/print/
Chronicle
Wednesday, November 11, 2009
The Foundation
"Gentlemen, you will permit me to put on my spectacles, for I have grown not only gray, but almost blind in the service of my country." --George Washington
Veterans Day
Today is Veterans Day. We encourage all Patriots to set aside time and reflect on the sacrifice of our Patriot veterans and those serving today, and honor them accordingly.
On Nov. 11, 1921, an unknown American soldier from World War I was buried in Arlington National Cemetery, in recognition of WWI veterans and in conjunction with the timing of cessation of hostilities at 11 a.m., Nov. 11, 1918 (the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month). President Warren Harding requested that: "All ... citizens ... indulge in a period of silent thanks to God for these ... valorous lives and of supplication for His Divine mercy ... on our beloved country." Inscribed on the Tomb are the words: "Here lies in honored glory an American soldier know but to God." The day became known as "Armistice Day." In 1954, Congress, wanting to recognize the sacrifice of veterans since WWI, proposed to change Armistice Day to Veterans Day in their honor. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, former Supreme Commander in WWII, signed the legislation.
To honor those veterans who sacrificed all, an Army honor guard from the 3d U.S. Infantry (The Old Guard) keeps day and night vigil at Arlington. At 11 a.m. this morning, a combined color guard representing all military service branches executed "Present Arms" at the tomb for the laying of a wreath by the president, followed by "Taps."
More than a million Patriots stand ready, or are actively defending our nation today. These men and women were not drafted into service, but volunteered to serve. To all our veterans: Thank you for your dedicated service to the cause of liberty.
To the wounded soldiers and civilians, and the families of those killeld or wounded at Fort Hood: Our prayers are with you.
Mark Alexander will have more on Veterans Day in his essay tomorrow, dedicated to the service of two notable veterans.
Insight
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse." --John Stuart Mill
"A really great people, proud and high-spirited, would face all the disasters of war rather than purchase that base prosperity which is bought at the price of national honor." --Theodore Roosevelt
"Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of the men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory." --George S. Patton
"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." --Sir Winston S. Churchill
"It is, in a way, an odd thing to honor those who died in defense of our country ... in wars far away. The imagination plays a trick. We see these soldiers in our mind as old and wise. We see them as something like the Founding Fathers, grave and gray-haired. But most of them were boys when they died, and they gave up two lives -- the one they were living and the one they would have lived. When they died, they gave up their chance to be husbands and fathers and grandfathers. They gave up their chance to be revered old men. They gave up everything for their country, for us. All we can do is remember." --Ronald Reagan
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Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Views by Lt Gen KM Seth on Letter by Lt Gen Bahi

From: krish seth [mailto:sethkrish2006@yahoo.co.in]
Sent: 31 October 2009 17:09
To: Kamboj Chander
Subject: Re: EMAIL FROM LT GEN SK BAHRI -
"REPORT MY SIGNAL" - EMAIL 745/2009 - 30 OCT 09 (H to Z)

Ref Gen Bahris letter, if you wish I can have the letter delivered to the leader of the opposition.Kindly let me have the letter.
With Best wishes.

Gen Seth.

(Lt Gen KM Seth, held the Constitutional post of Governor of Tripura,and Chhatisgarh from June 2000 to Jan 2008. Presently at Noida - 0120 2430909, 9811224400 )